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Mark Atwood
SmartCar in Toronto
I don't want one, but I know some people are excited.
SmartCar in Toronto


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mauser From: mauser Date: November 19th, 2007 05:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
Saw one in Renton. A motorcycle looks safer.
krow From: krow Date: November 19th, 2007 08:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
Read up on the frame, there was a lot of thought put into the safety of these things. For a lot of accidents I'd rather be in one of these then most of the light weight trucks on the market (especially if the vehicle rolled).
mauser From: mauser Date: November 20th, 2007 03:02 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm sure they did, or else it wouldn't be allowed on the road., but it doesn't affect the perception that in a collision, it'll be batted away like a ping-pong ball.
jenevastorme From: jenevastorme Date: November 20th, 2007 03:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, that's the point. And the person inside the ping-pong ball will be safer than the one being thrown from (or crushed against) the motorcycle.
mauser From: mauser Date: November 21st, 2007 07:42 am (UTC) (Link)
I dunno, I kinda like the philosophy expressed by a fellow banging out a dent in the door of his range rover with a hammer. "Rover engineers determined that the best place for a crumple zone was on the other guy's car." :-)

On the other hand, I normally drive a little Subaru. Which, by the way, even though it's vintage 1992, got 31 MPG on the last tank.
jenevastorme From: jenevastorme Date: November 21st, 2007 01:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
Be nice if neither needed one.
jatg From: jatg Date: November 19th, 2007 05:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
I know they're cute and little and easier to find parking spaces and get better MPG...but I sure wouldn't want to be in one if I were hit by a REAL car. Heck...a VW bug would decimate it!

(Also, if I had one I'd want to put a slowly winding key on the back.)
jenevastorme From: jenevastorme Date: November 19th, 2007 08:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
From what I've heard, they're designed to "bounce" off a colliding vehicle, since there's no room for any "crumple zones". I suppose that wouldn't help much if it were between a colliding vehicle and, say, a stone wall or the edge of a bridge...
krow From: krow Date: November 19th, 2007 08:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
What did you think of it? I think I could fit two in the garage :)
jenevastorme From: jenevastorme Date: November 19th, 2007 09:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
They're surprisingly common here in Winterpeg, especially among the delivery business crowd, which makes sense as long as you're delivering small items like pizzas. Cute, but not terribly practical for a family car. Me, I'd prefer a camper van with hella good gas mileage. Maybe someday I can get one of those used cooking-oil burning diesels...

We've got one of the newer hybrids which is kind of fun, instead of an RPG meter it's got one that tells you how many litres per 100km you're burning. ;-) Unfortunately between that and the part that tells you whether you're running off the battery or the motor, it means I spend more time looking at the dashboard than the road, heh.
krow From: krow Date: November 19th, 2007 11:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
I wish VW still made the diesel Vanogans. The turbo model was capable of climbing hills, and I always thought that they had the right mix of camper to "this is not a jumbo pain in the butt".
jenevastorme From: jenevastorme Date: November 19th, 2007 11:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
I vaguely remember those. Why did they stop making them?
krow From: krow Date: November 20th, 2007 12:08 am (UTC) (Link)
They were ugly :)

I've never quite understood VW. They cancel car lines that make money, they make changes that tick off their customers...

They must have a marketing department!

Nothing has really come onto the market to replace the campers though :(

intrepid_reason From: intrepid_reason Date: November 19th, 2007 09:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love the smaller cars, but honestly there are a lot better ones available in the UK that I lust over more.
mauser From: mauser Date: November 20th, 2007 03:08 am (UTC) (Link)
I recently saw a Black Mariah (British Cab) on the road. Also in Renton, IIRC.

Strangest car I ever saw was a Checker Maraton Airporter Shuttle. Take an old style Checker Marathon (Old style NYC Cab, before they banned them all) and stretch it by making it four doors on each side. That one was in Herndon VA.
rhonan From: rhonan Date: November 19th, 2007 10:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
Given my current driving habits and transportation needs, I'm probably a fine candidate for one of those.

Edited at 2007-11-19 10:04 pm (UTC)
roseembolism From: roseembolism Date: November 20th, 2007 03:47 am (UTC) (Link)
It's ver, ver, cute, but I think I'd prefer this hotrod, which got a song done about it.

Hmm. I wonder if the American obsession with huge cars comes from the fact that so many of those huge car owners are really awful drivers? Something like 4/5ths of the near accidents I've had recently have been the fault of some idiot in a jacked-up truck or SUV.
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