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Mark Atwood
Rant about webforums and socialnetwork "mailboxes".
All webforums should have an NNTP and an IMAP interface. And just saying "We have RSS!" or "We have Atom!" doesn't cut it. With much baroqueness, overhead, XMLness, and waste, you/we are laboriously building and using environments that supply 10% of the function of NNTP, at 10x the effort.

I fight with the MySQL forums, and wish for an NNTP/IMAP interface. I sort out the "mailboxes" on various social network sites, and groan, wish that I could just point my IMAP client at them.

Public discusion forums, such as GoogleGroups, YahooGroups, eBay forums, BoingBoing, LJ journals and communities, Slashdot, MySQL forums, plus all the precanned turnkey webforum software, and all the political rant cesspools, from LGF to DK, all of you: NNTP or IMAP. Now.

If your answer is "but then, people won't see my ads", you're a fool. Anyone clueful enough to run a reader client is already running Adblock, and so already isn't looking at your ads. And if you really think your ads are contentful, roll them into the article stream and into the article bodies.

That it's not been done is idiotic. That is not being done right now, remains idiotic.

Yes, I know I'm calling a lot of smart people idiots. It's still true.

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codetoad From: codetoad Date: November 13th, 2007 06:29 am (UTC) (Link)
I think gmane does a really good job of this stuff.
From: evertcollab Date: November 13th, 2007 07:09 am (UTC) (Link)
your totally right from a technology perspective, you just fail to see the business side of things. you (we) are simply not the target audience, or more than a minority.. This has been the case for a while now, and as a result web technology has become extremely easy to develop and deploy from a cost and time perspective, and deploying the data on the old-school protocols doesn't make a lot of sense anymore except for the <%1 group you're part of..

Get over it?
awfief From: awfief Date: November 13th, 2007 12:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
You're just the idiot to code an IMAP/NNTP API for a MySQL table. Can you say "RSS Storage Engine" ? :)

gmane doesn't deal with the mysql forums issue -- however, I'd suggest having a server with an aggregator that stores the posts in a db, and then using your yet-uncoded storage engine for MySQL to interface with IMAP or NNTP.
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