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Mark Atwood

There is a fraudulent chart being floated around much of the blogosphere purporting to demonstrate that states which swung for Gore in the 2000 election have a higher average IQ score than states that swung fro Bush. It's a fraudulent claim.

In other words, it was a lie, and a shameful one that that, wildly and enthusiatically propagated by the same folks who otherwise would would consider segriating and judging groups of people on IQ to be evil.
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From: ex_tepes85 Date: May 13th, 2004 02:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
But The Bell Curve was evil, race-hating nonsense and I'm proud to have never read it!

*shakes head*

BTW, what do you think about <a href="http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/>this</a>?
tonyawinter From: tonyawinter Date: May 13th, 2004 03:25 pm (UTC) (Link)


Thanks for the heads up on that one. I had yet to see it, but I can now avoid it. *shakes head* Whoever made that chart should be spanked. Stooping to their tactics is never the way to show someone up.
omahas From: omahas Date: May 13th, 2004 06:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
In other words, it was a lie

Actually, that's not necessarily true, but after doing some research, it seems to be that this is the only thing that can be believed. If you look at Dean's blog, he doesn't have any evidence. He actually links to the blog of Steve Sailer, who has pulled together a huge amount of evidence. The only problem is that Steve isn't someone I can necessarily trust to bring the evidence together correctly because he is, among other things, a racist (see his comment further down in his blog in the same discussion on this IQ topic on jews in Connecticut).

So I decided to look at the evidence he had gathered for myself, and discovered that you can't state for a fact that it is a lie, because it doesn't look like the evidence has been discounted (caveat: I haven't been able to look at all of it yet) but that can be the only conclusion you can come to because the originator of this IQ thing, one Robert Calvert (you can see the post here:). Calvert posted this thing, but then refused to back up his data in the discussion, even refused to make a comment in the thread he originated on that newsgroup.

Salier claims it's a hoax because he'd never heard of anyone taking the Ravens Advanced Progressive Matrices test and applying it on a state by state basis. This does not mean it hasn't been done. The fact that no one has come forward with the numbers from an independent source, and that the author of this table himself hasn't either, points toward it probably being a farce. But I wouldn't say it was a lie simply because people hadn't heard whether it had been done before.

One other thing to note...if it hadn't been for everyone spreading the word around so blatantly, how long would it have been before we would have known that this lie was running around in the underground?
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